Your response should address one of the following options:
1. Explore one idea you have from this section of the reading. Use a key quote in your explanation of your idea and push your thinking.
2. Research the history behind the second picture on this post: Franklin Roosevelt's quotation about books and the WWII propaganda poster that accompanied it. Why did Roosevelt say what he did? Why would the United States want to print posters sending out this message?
In this section, things are really starting to heat up. Montag is now at the center of attention and is highly wanted in his society. Faber advises him to head towards the river to hide out. One section of this reading that really stuck out to me was when Faber was talking to Montag about who he may see along the river, "I've heard there are still hobo camps all across the country, here and there; walking camps they call them, and if you keep walking far enough and keep an eye peeled, they say there's lots of old Harvard degrees on the tracks between here and Los Angeles." (126) My idea is that while Montag is traveling along the river, he will come across Clarisse McCellan and her family hiding out and living along the river. I think this because the people that live along the river are probably people that differ from the society and don't care for technology. Therefore, I think Montag will come across Clarisse.
ReplyDeleteFDR was the presenent during WWII in the fight agaisnt the nazis. His quote he says that "books are weapons in the war of ideas..." and also "Books never die". The imagry shows Nazis burning books. He is saying that in the battle of ideology burning books will have no effect, we will always win. Also says you are the tyrand and books embody the fight agaisnt Tyrants further cementing his point that we will win. He would want to send this message becuase it provides more motivation to beat them in the war.
ReplyDeleteIn the reading, Faber mentions walking camps that are in old abandoned subways and how, “there’s lots of old Harvard degrees on the tracks” (126). If Montag is able to escape the helicopters and the mechanical hound and make it onto the tracks, he will meet a lot of people who will be able to provide more support and more books to their cause. The books that he could collect while on the tracks will lead to more books being printed and more ideas being spread. Even though this situation is not the one best one for Faber and Montag, it might be the one with the most reward.
ReplyDeleteOne reason FDR, the president during world war 2, might have said that was in response to May 10, 1933. On this day the Nazi regime had a large burning of books. The books burned were all labeled as "degenerate" cultures in the eyes of the Nazis, like jewish books. This book burned continued on throughout the Nazi regime, FDR said that because he wanted the US to symbolize freedom of thought and democracy unlike the Nazi's.
ReplyDeleteI think an important part in the reading was faber telling Montag how there are hobo camps across these countries. they are dumb homeless people but smart bright minds. He said many of them were told to have Harvard degrees, they would chose to live out in these camps because it is said "Books never die". The people is these camps still live lives that have seem to have been shut down by the government they still care about the stories a book can tell. This poster was from the office of war during world war II when President Roosevelt was in office.
ReplyDeleteThe most important section of the reading is Fabre explaining to Montag about the wealth of information that is located throughout the work along the railroad tracks. The Harvard degrees that people have and are searched for by the government to eliminate: "Most of them are wanted and hunted in cities"(126). This shows that there is still some hope for Montag in this perilous situation. How there are others like him surviving in the world that can help him save books and knowledge. Roosevelt said this because he wanted people to realize how important books are in a person's life I creating knowledge and debate as many books were banned by the Nazis because they went against their ideals. This would have been printed to show the importance of these books and why they should be saved.
ReplyDeleteFaber mentions that Montag wouldnt be the only one on the run and that "there's lots of old Harvard degrees on the tracks between here and Los Angeles." Faber believes that Montag will be safer with one of these groups and that they might accept him because he too loves books. The poster was a quote from FDR trying to show people that the Nazis burning books will not be able to destroy books and that the burning of books does not mean the death of them
ReplyDeleteThis section of the reading was very eventful, a lot went on in Montag's life. As he narrowly escaped the grasp of the mechanical hound, authorities, and had previously murdered Beatty. As he made his way to Faber's Montag was trying to be careful to not be caught and for the most part was pretty successful, but when arriving at Faber's house he learned of another mechanical hound being brought in from another district. "A new mechanical hound has been brought from another district--" (126). The art is propaganda showing the Nazis burning books that they believed were "degenerate". President Roosevelt said that "Books never die" and basically was saying that though the Nazis were burning the books, the ideas of the books would live forever.
ReplyDeleteOne important idea from the chapter was how Montag is now considered a fugitive. I think this is a very important idea from this chapter because it shows how drastically things in the novel have changed. Montag once had a wife and was a fireman, but is now considered a criminal. Mildred has left him and he is on the run. This relates to the idea of how much Montag is putting on the line, he states "I'd better run". it also relates to the woman earlier in the novel who was willing to die for her books and I think this shows how much Montag understands what he's willing to do for these books.
ReplyDeleteFDR was an ominous person to say the least. This quote was said in spite of the Nazi Regime burning books in bulk as bonfires. Particularly, books that were thought to be anti-nazi or expressed ideas that were not that of the Nazi Regime. So, saying that "Books are weapons in the war of ideas" is really true. Especially in World War Two.
ReplyDeleteIn this section of the story Montag expresses his feeling about all of the terror that he had done or put others through. Montag showed his feelings when he said, “It was only the other night that everything was fine and the next thing I know I’m drowning”(pg.124). I think that this supports the idea that in the beginning of the novel he was unhappy with his life. Montag may be rethinking all that he has done and thinking about everything bad that has resulted from his choices. Although Montag seems like he is regretting his choices I think that Faber makes him feel better about them when Faber says, “I feel alive for the first time in years”(pg. 125). I think Faber’s remark helps Montag to move on and keep running. Despite everything bad that has happened to Montag, Faber helped him remember that he is fighting for something he really cares about. I think that Faber is helping Montag to look at his life as something better and not just a terrible life where he made mistakes.
ReplyDeleteIn this section of the reading, the book has taken a weird turn with this mysterious driver that tries to run Guy over. Guy realized that after running from it, it wasn't the police, just a crazy person that tried to kill him. The car would have hit Guy but he fortunately fell and the car moved around him. Since he was on the ground, the car moved because it could have done a lot of damage to the car and the person inside, but if he was standing Guy probably would be dead. Guy later thinks that this car was the one that killed Clarisse and is shocked by what he thinks. A quote that sums this up is on page 122 when Guy thinks, "He stopped and his mind said it again, ver loud. i wonder if they were the ones who killed Clarisse! He wanted to run after them yelling. His eyes watered." This shows his thinking now and since this person had been trying tio hit him near Guy's house, maybe Clarisse was killed by the same person. Overall, I found it interesting how Guy pieced together that maybe this was the person that killed Clarisse.
ReplyDeleteGoing along with what Aidan and Quinlan, I think it was really important to notice Faber was telling montag about these homeless people and their camps being neat subways. If montag wants to leave or change the society rather than trying to control it, he should leave perhaps with Faber out on the search for more books and knowledge. Faber brings up how he wants technology to be like in the society when he says "I always wanted something very small, something I could talk to, something I could blot out with the palm of my hand, if necessary, nothing that could shout me down, nothing monstrous big.". The robotic hounds are doing exactly that, and it makes no sense how if so many people feel against the society, why it hasn't changed yet.
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